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  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Can someone tell your paymasters at Purch that the advertising on this site is completely out of control? I'd almost expect it from Tom's Hardware (yes, I know Purch owns you both) but I also expect Anandtech to, you know, not be Tom's Hardware.

    I'm sure they can't tell the difference between you too, but there was a time when I could.

    FFS a video ad for Alienware just showed up and pushed this comment box down off the bottom of the window. How embarrassing.
  • Zingam - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    You are The First! Reply
  • schujj07 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Just use an adblocker if you have problems with the ads. Reply
  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    I confess I do use ad blocking software on my personal devices (it's so bad now that I have to use NoScript to block the "don't block our ads" popups), but I do most of my tech news reading on my work computer.

    That's still not a solution to the problem of Anandtech remaining a viable website, though. That problem is solved by advertising that is relevant to its readers' interests, presented in a way that doesn't make a tech-savvy readership reach for browser plugins.
  • elforeign - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    I have to agree, the ads on this site are nigh on unbearable. I understand they need to be on here some way, but when they make the site incredibly slow to load, push content up or down or altogether just take over your screen, it's just too much. Reply
  • abrowne1993 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    The mobile ads are downright cancerous. Reply
  • Holliday75 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Yeah they have gotten horrible. Spending less and less time here because of it. Reply
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Thanks for flagging: The current ad setup is definitely not how it's meant to be. We're looking into it to get it resolved. Reply
  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Thank you for responding, Andrei, and good luck. You're probably way ahead of me on this, but I just wanted to clarify that the reason I felt compelled to make a comparison to Tom's Hardware is because they're using the same new ad format, as well. Reply
  • Exodite - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    FWIW, and I realize it may be very little, I'd definitely consider contributing to the site via a patreon setup or something similar but I'm not turning off adblock for Anandtech ever again.

    It's not just the ads themselves or the placement but auto-playing video in article images and so on, and it's been going on for way too long to be a mistake.

    I love the content you put out and I do feel bad about not contributing to keeping the site running. Just not bad enough to put myself through ad hell.

    Please consider a small subscriber fee solution, one which doesn't require any privacy compromises would be ideal.
  • Umer - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Sorry but I chuckled at your comment box being bogged down, heh.

    I only notice the issues on AT's website when traveling abroad, back home in third-world countries, the ads don't even show up at all. I have AT's website whitelisted, but I feel your pain!
  • HTMLSpinnr - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Other sites are posting rumors of a 16 core/32 thread Ryzex 3 9xxx series. Let's hope it's true! Reply
  • jeremyshaw - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Same, I'm hoping it's binned well enough to allow full operation in a low profile SFF case (specifically, DAN A4 SFX) with a Noctua L9a HSF :D Empirically, that can handle ~100W of actual heat (peaking into the high 80s). Reply
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Please don't, especially if the point of the system is for PC gaming. Very few game applications will use 16-cores/32-threads, and you get to a point to where excess cores generating heat directly impedes the few cores in use that would otherwise turbo up to higher clocks.

    If you're instead trying to opt for a compact system which DOES utilize those CPU cores, for example, for mobile video editing, just don't go with a DAN A4-SFX, because the fact of the matter is that the DAN A4-SFX has really poor options for CPU cooling due to the limited height clearance. There are other mini-ITX options which have options for a 120mm or 240mm AIO which will let you better leverage turbo speeds without letting the CPU suffer during extended renders. NCase M1, Silverstone ML07, Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0, etc.

    Would it work? I... Guess...? But what's the point of getting a CPU that you'd likely have to undervolt just to run with mixed thermal results under an anemic cooler?
  • jeremyshaw - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    I’m not going any larger than a Dan A4 SFX and I’m not going with watercooling again, not even AiO loops. I used to assemble custom loops for my PCs (including ITX shoeboxes), but no more.

    My setup is currently fine with a light overclock (enough to draw a consistent ~100W under load), at no more than high 80s in terms of temperatures.

    Thermal Power dissipated is thermal power dissipated. If AMD’s potential 16 core can do better around this thermal envelope, then I will move over. If it cannot, then I’ll have to think awhile on whether or not 8C/12C options are worth upgrading to, from my 4.5GHz (all core) 4C/8T setup. Some light gaming, 3D rendering (mostly for CAD purposes nowadays), and video editing.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    >Posts logic about why something is dumb and offers reasonable similar alternatives.
    >Response is always 5 or so asinine reasons why they absolutely CANNOT fathom any other more sensible alternative and why their patented 5-star design with the cart-device infront of the horse-device is the only way to accomplish their task.

    Something something idiot and their money are soon parted. Do what you please. Don't be surprised when a 92mm fan has to spin at full bore audibly during CAD exports/video renders because you insist on using a case and cooler that are inadequate for a monster CPU. Noctua's own guidance doesn't recommend it for anything over 65W TDP (ex: Ryzen 2600 at stock speeds, but this absolute unit thinks a 3950x with higher clocks and over double the cores/threads is a good(tm) idea). And everyone knows the 105 TDP figure given is lowballing how much watts the 3950x will put out.
  • Qasar - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link

    it'll still probably be well under how many watts intels cpus uses.... Reply
  • GreenReaper - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Probably. But it'll cost. Most will get better value from putting that money into RAM or video hardware. Reply
  • Drumsticks - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    It's sad that I'm ad blocking Anandtech now. The ads used to be reasonably relevant and certainly unintrusive. It absolutely sucks to have Anandtech showing me ads for "Do you have royal blood? Your last name may tell you!" and autoplaying video ads from best buy.

    Loading this page on mobile chrome, I count: 13 distinct ads, only one of which is even arguably remotely tech related (an autoplaying video ad from best buy), and 2 of which have some kind of video or animation.

    Give me an option to pay for a subscription like Arstechnica does! I would love to stop bringing your website up in Firefox Focus :(
  • Drumsticks - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Meant to be a reply to old_fogie_late_bloomer but ah well. Hopefully it's still seen and considered! Reply
  • Meteor2 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    I’m afraid Anandtech was instrumental in my installing pihole and pivpn to connect through while out and about. No ads on any devices, ever.

    A subscription/contribution option would definitely be worthwhile.
  • manfat - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Possibly news about which Ryzen 3 APU chip might be in the PS5 next year? Reply
  • darkswordsman17 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Sony would be the one to make such an announcement, so almost definitely not.

    They probably will mention RDNA/Navi being the basis for products all over the place (tout their new Samsung venture, next gen consoles, PC gaming cards, future products both consumer and professional). But anything with any amount of specifics will be relegated to the discrete Navi gaming graphics cards and that rumored 16 core 3950X CPU.
  • AdditionalPylons - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Just dropping in to say I am now also adblocking Anandtech because of the horrible clickbait ads below the articles. This site used to have relevant ads! Reply
  • AdditionalPylons - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    PLEASE give us a paid option! I would love to support your work! Reply
  • GlossGhost - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    I would like paid option as well. Reply
  • Meteor2 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Yep. They were disgusting. Disappointed to learn they’re still present.

    Maybe on some sites clickbait works but I just don’t believe that’s the case with Anandtech’s audience.
  • evilpaul666 - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Sees Lisa Su holding the blower.

    Reads the line below, "It's a blower." Exactly what I was thinking.

    I don't remember if Turing blowers were extra bad compared to previous gens or not, but how many people are using awful airflow cases or multiple cards that "benefit" from such a dismal cooling config?
  • waldoh - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Same price as 2070 but with a blower vs dual fan? Reply
  • zmatt - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Radeon 5700XTX when? The cards look to be competitive with nvidia on price perf for the mid and low range but I was hoping for them to have something to stand up to the 2080ti and beat it on price. Reply
  • Slashchat - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    very cool, amd is leading now! Reply
  • davidk1 - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    It's a fair bet that we'll be seeing both GPU news and CPU news from this keynote, plenty of gaming demos, and as is usually the case for AMD, maybe a surprise or two. Reply
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