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  • Hulk - Friday, December 14, 2018 - link

    So if I'm understanding this the big benefits of 5G for smartphones is increased data rates and decreased latency? While that is nice I'm actually more interested in 5G at home so I can finally cut the cord from Comcast completely and actually force them to compete in the many markets where they are the only internet provider (like mine). Reply
  • prophet001 - Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - link

    True but at the rates AT&T just released that's not happening any time soon.

    The gouging is real.
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  • SanX - Friday, December 14, 2018 - link

    So QCOM thinks that taking what we have for 20 years on a PC and no one cares - the ethernet speeds - but now making them wireless is so huge revolution that they want to sell their 5G cellphones for $300 more and their modems for 10x the price of Apple A12 chip? Funny guys. Reply
  • darkswordsman17 - Friday, December 14, 2018 - link

    I don't know why you're conflating ethernet speeds (which vastly exceeded the speed you'd get from ISP for the time period you're talking about) with the outside network speed that an ISP/carrier provides. Very different things.

    5G enables things that have otherwise largely not been possible (game streaming - as in playing games that are rendered on servers).

    I have little interest in 5G until it actually has great coverage and certainly am not interested in paying a premium for it as a feature anytime soon (especially since the bandwidth limits and other nonsense the carriers will pull that will neuter its usefulness), but there's reason to be excited for what it can offer in the future.
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  • SanX - Saturday, December 15, 2018 - link

    Games streaming :)))))))))))). Good 14 y.o. reading AT but better go drilling your math book. Cudos to your mom for not buying you 2080gt Reply
  • darkich - Sunday, December 16, 2018 - link

    Wow what an idiot.
    Go get some clue and some brain.
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  • Nickprime - Friday, December 14, 2018 - link

    Will they allow you guys to test 855 extensively?
    Any guesses on how much power these 5g modems and antennas need to run as intended.
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  • philehidiot - Saturday, December 15, 2018 - link

    Remember the frickin' sharks with frickin' lasers strapped to their heads?

    That much power.
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  • name99 - Saturday, December 15, 2018 - link

    "Frankly speaking, for single threaded performance, I need to ask you this: is there a particular application that we cannot deliver best-in class-performance already, from the single threaded performance with Snapdragon today. "

    Oh Qualcomm, you sure do know how to pick them!
    This remark is going to look as sensible in five years as your similar remarks about 64-bit...
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  • blu42 - Saturday, December 15, 2018 - link

    Nothing exudes confidence in single-threaded performance better than 1+3+4 clustering.. Reply
  • Wardrive86 - Saturday, December 15, 2018 - link

    I would agree with Qualcomm on this. They obviously don't have the best single threaded performance and benchmarks prove this. However looking at real world applications I see Qualcomm consistently perform at the top of the stack. Let's take the Dolphin Emulator for example, notoriously lightly threaded, needing substantial single thread performance on both PC and mobile, and Qualcomm's performance there is greatly better than all other competitors. The Exynos 9810 and Kirins for example are like watching slide shows while even a SD660 is getting 60 fps in many games. Sure GPU drivers are most likely a large part of that, but nevertheless the biggest single threaded real life workload I can think of on mobile is dominated by Snapdragon. Maybe what he is saying here is the competition has better single threaded performance but the rest of their systems (schedulers, drivers, etc.) are worse so it doesn't really matter. Reply
  • name99 - Sunday, December 16, 2018 - link

    The competition is not 5% single-threaded difference like other Android chips, it is 2x single-threaded difference on the Apple side... Reply
  • Raqia - Sunday, December 16, 2018 - link

    The 855 brings that single threaded deficit down to about 30% if you're using a synthetic benchmark. Apple also pays a heavy price in battery life for putting a 7-wide current hog of a CPU (although world leading in performance and efficiency) into the iPhone; it was simply over-provisioned for the battery they could put in that form factor and they had to throttle performance after about about a year and tried to do so without telling consumers. Also, good luck finding any iOS apps that make use of that CPU brawn: compute heavy tasks are mostly done by co-processors and the CPU's ALU performance matters a lot less than memory performance. Reply
  • surveyforcustomers - Monday, December 17, 2018 - link

    I would concur with Qualcomm on this. They clearly don't have the best single strung execution and benchmarks demonstrate this. Anyway taking a gander at true applications I see Qualcomm reliably perform at the highest point of the stack. How about we take the Dolphin Emulator for instance, famously delicately strung, requiring considerable single string execution on both PC and portable, and Qualcomm's execution there is incredibly superior to every single other contender. The Exynos 9810 and Kirins for instance resemble watching slide appears while even a SD660 is getting 60 fps in numerous diversions. Beyond any doubt GPU drivers are no doubt a vast piece of that, however in any case the greatest single strung genuine outstanding burden I can consider on versatile is overwhelmed by Snapdragon. Possibly https://surveyforcustomers.com/mykfcexperience/ what he is stating here is the opposition has better single strung execution however whatever is left of their frameworks (schedulers, drivers, and so forth.) are more terrible so it doesn't generally make a difference. Reply
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